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Well, those people certainly, but you've got to ask where does the money come from? Where does Greensill get the money from? It doesn't grow on trees, not even on sugar cane.

He gets it from people who put their money, their pension money or their savings into wealth funds like Credit Suisse or Global Asset Management or Greensill actually has a bank, so people put their money in there.

And he uses that money.

to lend to Gupta, and he tells the people that he's borrowing the money from, who are basically Credit Suisse asset managers and their clients, look, this is super safe.

He bought one of those.

Or into a fund called Global Asset Management.

So it's Mums and dads or rich mums and dads who put their money, their pension money in to be looked after by wealth funds.

Those wealth funds have gone.

... who invested their money in this? Surely they've, they've lost a lot.

Well, [laughs] the people who invested money were essentially putting their savings or their pensions or whatever into a bank in Germany called Greensill Bank or, uh, Credit Suisse in Switzerland, which is a Swiss bank, or Global Asset Management, which is a...

So, so basically all people who were entrusting their savings to wealth managers.

Those wealth managers were then passing on the money to Greensill, and he was passing on the money to Gupta and blokes like Gupta.

So in this episode, I'm joined by Alan Hamilton, Global Chief Information Security Officer at GAM Investments to explore what AI adoption looks like from the end user perspective, the security challenges it creates and how organizations are adapting.

Welcome to the show, Alan.

It's great to have you on.

Thank you for having me.

It's a pleasure to be here.

So before we start, could you tell us a little bit about your role at GAM Investments and more about your career?

So I've worked in IT for 30 years, depressing as that is, and I've worked in security for just over 20.

I've pretty much done every managerial security role you could possibly imagine, everything from investigations to compliance and oversight through to access control.