Gaines County

So in areas of the world that have the lowest vaccine coverage, that's where you see the most measles deaths, the most measles cases, and the most measles hospitalizations.

W- that's true in the current outbreak in Gaines County, Texas, where I believe the vaccination rate for measles was about 82%.

Less vaccination, more measles? Stop making sense.

So if people get tricked into not getting vaccinated, especially with something like MMR, which has been proven to be safe and effective for decades, that would be the reason we're seeing measles outbreaks and children dying? Stop telling tales out of school, Dan.

... where was that exactly on the-

It's o- I think it's actually in Gaines County, so it's just-

Okay

... right over the Terry line.

the outbreak and under-reporting.

I mean, it's a little different because I'm the health department director in Lubbock, which is a very urban county, and we're adjacent to where the outbreak was in Gaines County, and that's a different health department.

So I don't have staff on the ground.

in Gaines County that was able to actually, you know, work with the Mennonite community directly.

But when we got the first reports of measles cases in Lubbock, because children were hospitalized and the hospital contacted us, when I went back and spoke with women in the Mennonite community that were willing to talk to me through some personal connections, they were telling me the schools were closed.

They have like private run schools that are outside this, you know, the typical public or even religious schools that we have in Texas.

Why was

that, Catherine? Why weren't there trusted individuals?