Gail Sheehy

If we don't grow, we are not really living.

Gail Sheehy.

The ability to learn is the most important quality a leader can have.

Sheryl Sandberg.

Uh, and that is, first of all, a book called The Second Half of Life by Dr. James Hollis, and that is an excellent book.

And a second one is Passages, quite a classic actually, Passages by Gail Sheehy.

So if you wanna dive further into this idea of, you know, living out of ego, and that's to do with identity, and then why does that become a problem in midlife, well, they're good places to start.

But as you age, you shift from quantity to quality.

But your book shows plenty of evidence that menopause was being talked about in culture, in media, dating back to 1972 on the Family episode about Edith's change.

You talk about landing on Gail Sheehy's decades-old Silent Passage book instead.

I thought, "I've never even heard of that." I mean, I've heard of her, but I hadn't heard of that book.

Why do you think this generational misunderstanding's been happening, that, like, we've discovered menopause, and that didn't exist before, and what did the past references to menopause not do to create a better information highway for us to be on today? Why did we have to reinvent it?

And and.

You know, I don't want to go all Gail Sheehy on you guys, but a shrink might say that he doesn't really want to win.

He certainly doesn't expect to prevail in these midterms.

And he, of course, is a drag on this ticket.