Fusion GPS

And you were you were on the front edge of reporting this and digging into this.

But, you know, with with the Clinton campaign, hiring the law firm Perkins Coie, hiring the public relations firm Fusion GPS, hiring Christopher Steele, the foreigner who writes the bogus document called the dossier that goes to Comey.

Comey uses that to go to the secret court to get a warrant to spy.

I mean, that's when it all started.

Ten years ago is when it started, and you were on the front edge of reporting this and digging into this.

But, you know, with the Clinton campaign, hiring the law firm, Perkins Coie, hiring the public relations firm, Fusion GPS, hiring Christopher Steele, the foreigner who writes the bogus document called the dossier that goes to Comey.

Comey uses that to go to the secret court to get the warrant.

That's when it all started.

And they indicate that Brennan may have made the ultimate decision, along with James Comey, why would this not surprise me, right, to include information from the dossier despite warnings from a senior CIA officer about its flaws, right? And obviously there were serious flaws because...

It was just a bunch of garbage and it was something that was commissioned by an opposition research firm that went out and hired, right, Fusion GPS.

It was actually commissioned by Hillary Clinton and her campaign who went through a law firm in DC who then hired Fusion GPS, who then basically went out and hired Christopher Steele.

And Christopher Steele was fed a bunch of garbage by some Russian spies.

So there you have it, right? Like, you know, if you get a real CIA, they ought not to be treating this as gospel.

It's similar to a number of other security type companies.

And I would even say they're almost like Orbis or Fusion GPS.

who Orbis is owned and run by Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson had testified to Congress about their role in the Steele dossier.

From the Steele dossier days.

Yes.

You go back to 16.

It was, oh, we're going to use the the Clinton campaign hiring the law firm, which hires the public relations firm Fusion GPS, which hired the foreigner, Christopher Steele, who wrote the document called the dossier that was all fake and garbage.

that got leaked to the press.

Comey then uses all that to go to the secret court to get the warrant to spy on the other party's campaign.

So we had good reason to have confidence in them.

What we didn't do really, because it was a, a live situation, we were providing a live feed, if you like, into, uh, the client, uh, structure, which was the Hillary for America campaign, uh, miti- uh, mediated, sorry, by, by Fusion GPS, was effectively speaking notes from the raw intelligence on a, on an almost daily basis as we went through the two months of the campaign.

So it was quite an unusual, uh, work mode, uh, modus operandi, but it...

I still would maintain that the main thrust of the reporting was correct, and we can talk about the reporting itself and our sources to some extent, but we can also talk about extraneous evidence that we have that would support the main assertions that we had, which were as fourfold, that there was a major interference campaign being launched in the American elections from Russia, that it was sanctioned from the top, that it involved favoring Donald Trump and damaging Hillary Clinton, and the elements of the Trump campaign and possibly Trump himself were involved in what has been termed collusion or cooperation with the Russians and with Russian agents in order to further those aims.

No such thing.

I mean, I was the one that proposed that we went to the FBI.

Actually, the Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS were not very enthusiastic about it.

They took quite a lot of persuading till I put my foot down and said, "No, we're working for these people.

Many of you do not know that there are public records out there that show that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative that came from the Hillary Clinton campaign, which included Jake Sullivan, Mark Elias, of course, John Podesta ran it while he was still running the Center for American Progress and working with the Chinese Communist Party while he was also Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, still working with the Chinese Communist Party to this day over there.

But I do have to tell you what we're dealing with is that the Clinton campaign money financed Fusion GPS, Chris Steele, But now we have Ian Bassin and two of the other people that have never really been held accountable.

That would be Cody Shearer and Sidney Blumenthal were also very involved in the Russia gate, the Russia hoax.

In fact, a lot of people say that Shearer was the one who actually wrote a lot of the stuff that ended up in the Steele dossier.

I don't see it.

I mean, if you're going to say that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, you cannot discount the fact that the DNC and Hillary paid for the Fusion GPS Steele dossier that involved Steele communicating with Russians and putting unverified information in that dossier and then giving it back to the FBI, who then lied to a FISA court.

So that's where the collusion is.

It's

The first people to hire Steele were

the...

No, the Washington Free Beacon hired Fusion GPS to do oppo research.

But once Trump secured the nomination, and that did not involve Christopher Steele.