Fresh food

And it's not necessarily so.

Well, I think it's better in other ways, right? Like you said, if you're buying fresh food, that's going to have more water in it.

That can be better for your cat's kidneys down the road.

But when it comes to the mercury present in the fish, it's just the fish that they're buying.

They run their own testing labs and they certainly are checking even if they're not doing it.

Has your testing done okay? You've done dry food and I take a canned food.

Lately in the past couple of years, we've seen fresh food being sold.

Is that any better? Do you mean to find less contaminants in the fresh food or they're all in the same situation?

No, I agree that that has definitely been like the track record for a lot of these big pet food companies.

What I do find interesting is that the farmer's dog is about fresh food.

And I don't know if their recipes have changed now that they took on investment money.

What do you call that? Oh.

what people's experiences are really, what they're having.

I did find it interesting that they're trying to fund the nutritional studies program to train vets to be, what is it, a certified veterinary nutritionist because it's a very rare certification or expertise and they don't have a lot of those.

But I think of people like Donna Ratadick, you know, who's worked with Dr. Becker a lot in nutritional programs and raw diet and fresh food studies and things like that.

What was the name of their association? Because I know that they are completely funded by donations.