Fred Pine

That was a continuity of my research work on motherhood and the different modalities, cultural and psychological modalities and psychopathology of motherhood.

So when I moved to New York, I would just say thanks to Fred Pine, because for me, I'm still very grateful.

Fred Pine was the one who introduced me to the Columbia Center.

And at

that time, Karen Gilmore and Suzanne Coates had started the parent-infant psychotherapy training, and I was immediately involved into that.