Fred Mascherino

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We had become really good friends with Fred Mascherino from Taking Back Sunday.

And he took a step away from Taking Back Sunday to start Color Fred.

And he was good friends with our bass player, Chris.

I was just, like, enjoying my, my DIY tour, like, having a, having a great time with no responsibilities 'cause it was, like, not my band.

[laughs] Um, and Fred at the time was doing, uh, what some people called, like, the Fred Mascherino Eras Tour, where he was, like, he went-- He was out for, like, two months, I think.

Yeah.

And he was doing an acoustic tour, just, like, playing various songs from every project he's been in.

And a, a photographer from the Bay Area I guess had like told him like, "Oh, you should hit up like Roses." And so, uh, I, this was probably a little over three years ago.

I got a DM from this photographer that was like, "Hey, like do you ever play acoustic?" And I was like, "Yeah, sometimes.

Like why, what's up?" And he was like, "Oh, well you know, Fred Mascherino is doing a tour and like looking to figure something out in the Bay Area." And I was like, I think I just like put my phone down and I was like, "Oh my God, like what?" [laughs] Like who? So I was like, "That's..." I was like, "That's crazy." Um-

That's the guy.

We can maybe use this as a segue into the, the EP.

But, um, having Fred Mascherino, you know, rejoin Taking Back Sunday.

You know, we haven't heard if they're gonna record anything new.

But, I mean, the albums that Fred was part of and, and co-wrote with them, um, you know, Where You Wanna Be and Louder Now, those are two of my favorite Taking Back Sunday, probably even two of my favorite records, like, in the genre as a whole.

And because he's also a drummer, he's like, "Hey, why don't we try this little groove or this fill in this section that's kinda like a John Bonham style fill?" And Sean, like, knowing the style, playing anything you could mention to him, you know, he, like, totally [coughs] excuse me, incorporates that into the sound.

You know, or even, like, me being a keyboard player as well, like, I grew up as a piano player.

Like, knowing that I can add a piano line here and there, and then working with certain producers, you know, like Steve Angelo and Fred Mascherino, with their sonic, um, uh, capabilities, like with their amps and their guitar work and their ears for anything that, um, you know, that nods to the same influences that we have, we were able to really incorporate that into each of the songs on the EP.

That ma- I mean, I'm, I'm glad to hear that, especially when it comes to just kind of the different ways that how everybody contributed, but also how the sound sonically was able to grow, and with how your melodies are s- uh, sung on these records, how they end up being that connecting piece between what was in the past and what was here on the EP.

That's not like it's John Nolan.

It's just, you have the, you have the, the guy who performed the guitars and vocals on that song, Fred Mascherino.

So he was there and I was happy for Kate that Kate got to see that version of it.

Nice.

The opening track from their reunion album, uh, to be everywhere is to be nowhere.

Uh, but they, uh, no, it was, it was a great set.

And, uh, and then taking back Sunday, I think they need Fred Mascherino on the band.

I've seen taking back Sunday probably at least 20 times at this point.