That's, that's just the difference in levels, in my opinion.

Yeah, I think it's a great take on it.

I mean, I've been doing a little bit of homework this week, obviously, knowing that we're doing this today.

I watched both their last performances, and, um, it was apparent, you know, in, um, [lip smacks] Ryan Garcia's last performance, the way he started the fight, it's always a quick start, and that hand speed is blistering, especially at the beginning of the fight.

So I knew that would be a, a struggle for Conor Benn.

Um, I didn't quite think he would get taken out so early.

Like yourself, I thought, obviously, we buy into the Conor Benn, he's a warrior, he fights, and obviously we look at his dad and the way his dad was.

Yeah.

Mm.

And then even as far as Thursday morning, there's a couple of opponents p- s- being spoken about.

The board have not won back.

It's not gonna happen.

Then someone's come in, "You gotta go and weigh in tomorrow at Leeds." Boo- and the bag in the back of the car, off to Leeds I go, "Meet you there, Joe." And there we go.

We went from there.

But again, like, I'm gonna keep saying this, I have no ego.

Mm.

That's a great example he set.

Yeah, from...

I, I very much echo what Barry said.

Um, from not knowing him, but knowing the type of person he is and, and seeing the people he's around, I believe Oleksandr Usyk, he can judge his own, his last performance himself.

I feel like he'd have a lot of clever people around him, and I believe he opens his ears and he listens to experience and to people around him.

So there probably has been that conversation of, "Look, you know, maybe my best days have been and gone.

And, and they've been fantastic.

Fraze, w- where are you on the names that Oleksandr Usyk is throwing about there? I mean, surely the only real one that's worthy of a conversation is Fury, isn't it?

Yeah.

Um, but I understand it, and I, I honestly think this, and people, everyone's, everyone has an opinion.

We're in boxing.

That's, that's the name of the game.

But I do think a f- for the first time in a boxing ring as a professional, I felt comfortable.

I felt comfortable walking back to the corner.

I felt like I was going out there with clear instruction.

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