Wow

... stuff.

Yeah.

So and then my senior year of high school my, um, the, this woman who had left four years prior, her kids were some of my best friends.

They left, we had to cut 'em off.

She had been spending the past four years researching all this dirt on him to try to expose him, and she used my dad and his career as bait.

So Christianity Today, the man who wrote How Great Is Our God, is using his royalties to fund a cult.

You know what I'm saying? [laughs]

married.

And they were just really going through it.

Didn't think that they were going to be able to make it.

Their marriage was going to survive it.

So they were kind of on the brink of maybe calling it.

And their friend said, why don't you give it one more chance and go see a therapist? And like back in the early 2000s, it wasn't a popular thing to go see a therapist like it is now.

And so there just weren't well vetted.

And she wants to know the story behind that one.

my writing

of...

Like, they had known about my story.

I think just being in the music industry, they knew about it.

So it kind of, like, came in, like, 30 minutes.

Like, this heavy, heavy song was, like, not heavy to write, which is really strange.

So that's another surprising thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

New A&Rs and all those things.

So as I was, uh, new marketing and all that, and as I was getting to know my new team, um, they would ask me, "Who's your dream artist to go on tour with?" And I knew, like, the message that I had was, was one where I wanted anybody, regardless of whether or not they believed in God, to feel-

We'll see y'all next week.

Spiritually stronger.

When the waves break over me.

When my heart can barely beat.

I might be on my knees.

Right.

So, and it did.

It totally did.

Um, so anyway, my senior year of high school, my, uh, this article comes out, um, on Christianity Today, the man who wrote How Great Is Our God, who's my dad, is using his royalties to fund a cult, and it exposed all of the, the s- the allegations, the tax fraud, um, and all of the things that had been going on we didn't know about, and it just broke our family.

I mean, we just fell apart.

Like, there were, [clears throat] there were a lot of days where honestly I didn't know if I was gonna wake up to see some of my brothers or, or if I was gonna see the next day.

And it was just a really dark time, and it was like this place, and I, I think my story, I hope that it maybe speaks to people who've been in similar places where y- it's like you ki- you kinda can't throw out the whole thing 'cause then there were some good things, you know? And it's not like this total BC, because I was, there was like, when I say BC I mean before Christ, because we were learning scripture, and my dad was writing all these songs, and God was blessing our family.

Mm-hmm