Frank Spear

And just to highlight that point you made, worn teeth in occlusion are, by definition, in the wrong position.

That's something Frank Spear said.

And for those who didn't listen to that episode, think of that, we all had that scenario where the upper incisor has, like, wear.

And then when the patient bites together, the lower incisor sits right inside there, okay? So by definition, that lower incisor is in the wrong position.

I remember the early days, even Rosenthal and Appa were talking about it.

Frank Spear, Jared Kishay, all of the greats, John Coyce.

I'm saying pre-digital, yeah? Yeah, pre-digital.

Talking about facially driven.

I got a bunch of videos.

I'd, I'd love to share what I've been taught by the masters like Buddy Mopper and Corky Wilhite and Frank Spear and John Kois, and so many others that I, I just ...

You know, their list is far too long.

And so that's, that's sort of where I am.

And so that's kind of looking at not reversing it, but slowing that process down.

I remember going to a Frank Spear And I don't know if it was his words or if he was quoting somebody else, but it was helping your patient to get worse at the slowest possible rate.

And that's basically what facial aesthetics

is.

I call myself as a street boy who just made his way through some ideas.

But of course, then I was impressed with a lot of great names like John Coyce, Frank Spear, Nitsan Bichacho, Jerry Shish.

So Rufena, I continued to do their curriculums.

I read their books.