FOXO4

But we'll, we'll group that in there.

Um, I believe that that's what we're looking at with, uh, FOXO4.

Also, just m- more cellular.

Uh, there's not...

I don't know.

FOXO4 is supposed to clean out the, your dead cells, so then new cells will be happy, more than happy to make more and replicate.

Um, I think we're really talking about [laughs] SS31, MOTS-c, and NAD, but SS31 needs to be the first one.

Okay? Again, it is the wall in your mitochondria.

Like if we didn't experience those things, we wouldn't have the contrast of knowing what it felt like to stub our toe or to break our leg or to have a bad breakup because that's the heart is resilient.

It's an experience, right? So it's like, what can we glean from that? I mean, when we do FOXO4 and we feel, you know, if you have the flu-like symptoms afterward, you know, you don't sit there and say, you don't blame the medicine.

You're just like, oh, wow, I'm glad those cells are finally getting out of my body.

I feel like crap for 24 hours, but tomorrow I'm going to feel amazing, right? So there are some people that do, and, you know, I do, there is value in talk therapy, right? but only to the degree with which you're bringing it to the surface, not to relive it.

And now, in this season, I don't need to do that.

I choose not to do that.

Well, what I was going to say is around like the FOXO4 analogy, a lot of people don't realize that these emotional things that we go through in life, there is the same cellular inflammation inflicted as there would be from like a soft tissue

injury

What is it?

Uh, well, you start with SS-31, then you go to klotho, then you go to FOXO4, then you do an epithalamin/pinealion s- stack, and you finish it off with MOTS-c.

And what's that, a 30-day thing?

No, no, that's gonna... 'Cause, no, it's gonna be like a f- about a four or five month-

You say, I'm going to be discussing with her.

Last we were starting FOXO4, DRI tomorrow.

That's great.

I think she continued, probably got cut off.

We're wondering if you could still do the eight week, 2.5 milligram once a week protocol.

We may consider this on the second go around three to four months later.

I think it's really, to me, probably just more of a cycle of FOXO4 is around 10 milligrams.

What do you want to do? One milligrams a day for 10 days.

For example, when I do hypoxical hyperbaric training and checking my oxygen saturation or glucose, and I see what interventions, for example, um, hypoxica training.

I tried, uh, injecting peptide during this training, mitochondrial peptides or FOXO4 peptide, and even with, uh, reducing my oxygen up to, down to 75, it was, uh, raising up, uh, 10 or 15 units when I injected peptides right during the hypoxica training or during, um, checking glucose levels, uh, with, uh, exercise or after meals and, uh, um-

Like a CGM?

... resting.