Founding Engineer

And then he did a terrifying thing.

He left all that big tech stability to become a founding engineer at Koval, where he's helping build the platform that tests and earns trust in AI voice and chat agents.

I'm excited to talk to Kobe about his life and career so far, his thoughts on autonomous systems, the world of AI startups, the future of work in an AI-powered world, and maybe also why he's not entirely convinced cars should exist.

Kobi Hudson, welcome to the First Hand Podcast.

So I'm curious, you know, we, it's called the first time podcast.

We focus a lot on, you know, the first 10 team members of an early startup.

So one thing that I am, I am curious about is your, your journey from such an established, you know, big tech company like Google and then, you know, the Waymo brand inside of it, uh, to your founding engineer, Koval.

So I guess starting at