Foster W. Cline

Of course, my mom was, uh, played a huge role, and I don't wanna leave out Dr.

Foster Cline, who was a good friend of my dad's, a psychiatrist, child psychiatrist.

And you know, they put this together back in, it started in the early 1970s, planning it out, and it was out of desperation, honestly.

I mean, [laughs] my parents were like, "Okay, what do we do with these kids?" Uh, my, my parents didn't, uh, didn't have a real, uh, I would say super stable, uh, parenting experience themselves when they were kids.

My, my father, Jim Fay, and a good friend of his and a colleague, uh, Dr.

Foster Cline, developed it back in the '70s, and my parents were yellers up to that point.

My, my young childhood was...

I, I can't tell you how many times I heard, "For crying out loud, how many times do I have to tell you?" That was pretty much how everything started in our, [laughs] in our home.