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Nov 6, 2026

Kati CurtsGUEST
31:00
This guy named Stephan Link has also written on this really, I think, quite powerfully.
Kati CurtsGUEST
31:07
And in these two, I mean, one from the sort of late 20th century and one really much more recent, I think maybe 2015 or something like that, this book, a book called Forging Global Fordism.
Kati CurtsGUEST
31:22
These are figures who are, these are historians who are thinking about how broad Ford's appeal was.
Kati CurtsGUEST
31:28
and how we make sense of that.
Ignaz CorsiHOST
27:46
And I think it's super cool that you thought of that and wanted to kind of play with that further.
Katie KurtzGUEST
27:51
Yeah, I mean, at one point I thought, should I, like, really lean into it and see what might happen if I tried to make a kind of Fordist assembly line? But in many ways, part of what I think the first chapter is trying to get me, like, as I was writing it, right, trying to reckon with, is how much our idea of change over time and progress as a way of marking one version of change over time draws on a set of metaphysics that we should be thinking much more critically about.
Ignaz CorsiHOST
28:27
Yeah, something we've talked about a little bit so far, but I definitely wanted to touch on more was that Ford had many white supremacist beliefs and was notably anti-Semitic, as you said.
Ignaz CorsiHOST
28:38
And this made him quite controversial amongst the general public.
Kati CurtsGUEST
28:39
This guy named Stephan Link has also written on this really, I think, quite powerfully.
Kati CurtsGUEST
28:45
And in these two, I mean, one from the sort of late 20th century and one really much more recent, you know, I think maybe 2015 or something like that, this book, a book called Forging Global Fordism.
Kati CurtsGUEST
29:00
These are figures who are these are historians who are thinking about how broad Ford's appeal was and how we make sense of that.
Kati CurtsGUEST
29:09
And reading those books helped me try to think about this challenge, both as a controversial figure who.
Wright ThompsonGUEST
19:17
It was the...
Wright ThompsonGUEST
19:19
This was Fordism to its ultimate end.
Wright ThompsonGUEST
19:22
It's violence reduced to its absolute essence.
Wright ThompsonGUEST
19:28
This isn't going to go 15 rounds.
Fred BassoGUEST
11:35
And why is that? We don't find meaning at work because the work is standardized to a large extent for many people, because we don't have that much control over what we do.
Sue WindebankHOST
11:50
Workplace models such as Fordism and Taylorism emerged in the early 20th century as manufacturers looked for ways to boost productivity and lower costs.
Sue WindebankHOST
12:01
By breaking work into specialised tasks and concentrating decision-making at the top, they made production more efficient but often left workers with little control over their daily work and a growing sense of disconnection from it, says Fred.
Fred BassoGUEST
12:17
So basically, we divide labor to maximize the output, so the productivity.
Fred BassoGUEST
11:35
And why is that? We don't find meaning at work because the work is standardized to a large extent for many people, because we don't have that much control over what we do.
Sue WindebankHOST
11:50
Workplace models such as Fordism and Taylorism emerged in the early 20th century as manufacturers looked for ways to boost productivity and lower costs.
Sue WindebankHOST
12:01
By breaking work into specialised tasks and concentrating decision-making at the top, they made production more efficient but often left workers with little control over their daily work and a growing sense of disconnection from it, says Fred.
Fred BassoGUEST
12:17
So basically, we divide labor to maximize the output, so the productivity.
Michael ScrogginsHOST
16:21
Um, I'm sorry to them for that, but we'll put it in the show notes.
Michael ScrogginsHOST
16:24
But anyways, Muskism is this idea that we are transitioning out of a period of Fordism, which was largely like the era of industrial mass production, right? Assembly lines and, and, and, um, you know, sort of specialization of labor and then efficiency gains that came from that.
Michael ScrogginsHOST
16:42
And moving into this, this, this new era where the nation state has actually lost a lot of power and doesn't have the power to say, like collect tax like it used to do and spend like it used to do.
Michael ScrogginsHOST
16:54
And so, it doesn't have the ability to lay out infrastructure and new industrial pathways or, or lay out new industrial policy like it used to do.
Dominic BoyerHOST
27:51
Can you help connect the dots a little bit for our listeners?
Jacob McLeanGUEST
27:54
Yeah, just to get it going, I would say that it's rooted in the development of Fordism.
Jacob McLeanGUEST
28:01
It's rooted in that breadwinner model of this sort of industrial breadwinner model of wage and family relations.
Jacob McLeanGUEST
28:09
So it is a kind of deeply nostalgic experience.
William CallisonGUEST
28:55
And If you think about just the phenomenon of populism more broadly, what does it try to do? It tries to both speak on behalf of the people and to speak to the people and to claim to be representative of the people.
William CallisonGUEST
29:10
And there's a way that our intertwined existence with cars and car culture lends itself to a populist framework.
William CallisonGUEST
29:19
and to a right-wing or far-right populist framework that says the defense of the car, the defense of automobility, the defense of traditional ways of life, particularly white ways of life or global north ways of life, which, as Jacob was saying, had these roots in Fordism, in industrialism, in this post-war industrial boom.
William CallisonGUEST
29:42
and to the nuclear family and to the hierarchical gender relations, sexism implied in the historical form of the nuclear family.
AndrewHOST
24:01
If this is the case, the song could be interpreted as a barely veiled criticism of capitalism, Henry Ford having not only created one of the most famous automobile brands of all time, but perhaps more significantly given his name to a labor model based on standardized mass production and the assembly line.
AndrewHOST
24:17
a model denounced by some people as having transformed mankind into a machine-like slave of industrial progress or Fordism.
AndrewHOST
24:24
Thus, any color you like could also mean that the choice offered by society is no more than pure illusion, a non-choice in other words, which I thought was pretty interesting.
AndrewHOST
24:32
That's all from that book that we've been referencing.
Quinn SlobodianGUEST
38:11
I think it's worth looking at how that breaks down concretely as well.
Quinn SlobodianGUEST
38:15
So how have previous oligarchs, how have previous titans of industry secured popular consent, right? This is actually where the comparison to Fordism is helpful.
Quinn SlobodianGUEST
38:25
Ford himself, virulent anti-Semite, violently anti-union, and yet Fordism is something we associate with collective bargaining agreements, upward generational mobility, the construction of the single-family breadwinner model, the welfare state even.
Quinn SlobodianGUEST
38:43
How did that happen? Well, it happened because through social struggle, through enlightened legislation, and through democratic pressure, a compromise or a social contract emerged in which people were minimally willing to go along with the way that this guy was going to design the factory and the way he was going to make his money.
Quinn SlobodianGUEST
39:01
What's the equivalent for Musk, right? What is the social contract that people like Musk are proposing? Where is the equivalent of Carnegie's libraries in the case of Musk? You can look concretely at the Musk Foundation, which few people have heard of, but is one of the top 10 endowed philanthropic foundations in the United States.

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