Flynn Perez

I think he played about 13 games this year from St. Kevin's.

Hawthorne, Cody Anderson, James Blank, Henry Husswaite, Flynn Perez and Maxi Ramsden.

Well, Hawthorne have left the door open for Ramsden and Perez to come and train in the off-season.

Yep, okay.

But I think with, you know, Bodie Ryan moving on and, you know, Amon and Impey not getting any younger, bringing in a ready-made halfback flank replacement or player in that position is not a dumb idea, Mick.

That's right, but it'd be interesting to see what Flynn Perez decides to do then because they have offered him a train on spot.

Yeah, well, I mean,

do you go head-to-head with Jackson Voss if you're Flynn Perez because they play the same position or do you just go, I've had a go at this, see you later?

Yeah, well, again, Guinea City's doing some business with Flynn these days too and his brother, so he's still got that strong connection.

But, yeah, I reckon it'd be really hard, you know, saying we're not going to sign you, come and train.

We'll have to wait and see.

Max Ramsden and Flynn Perez at Hawthorne.

Ben and Lucas Campreale at Carlton.

And then Kobe Evans and Luke Lloyd are both in the, will get picked up via the rookie draft after Brisbane's draft plans are all completed so there's 12 names there obviously they're all up for grabs though for clubs so they're not locked into going back to those clubs and I think only about four of them actually have a commitment from their old clubs that they will pick them up but as we've seen with guys like Hugh Greenwood Max Noble was another one if rivals have enough interest and see them as the best pick, be it national or rookie draft, then they could be signed to other clubs.

What is the Guinevan method?

Yeah, the Guinness Method, obviously we've started, so me, Flynn Perez and my best mate Abe, obviously big passionate about health and fitness and it's a six-week off-season program to help kids go through their program in the off-season.

They might get lost in translation of what to do.

So we've built a six-week running program, six-week gym program.

Did it force you to come out of your comfort zone at all? And what have you learned about business?

Yeah, I think it's always, you know, sort of changing and chopping.

I've obviously got my clothing business with Oscar Perez and then now I'm doing my fitness business with his brother, Flynn Perez.

So, mate, it's been so much fun just being able to be in those rooms where you're making big decisions and obviously football's really important, but... to build, build a brand that I'm really proud of off the field for, you know, when footy does finish that I've got two businesses, I've got ball magnets, hopefully coming to the media, sit next to you guys in trade period.

So Hawthorne have delisted a couple of players.

Big Max Ramsden and Flynn Perez.

I thought that Max Ramsden at 203 centimetres and able to play forward.

I have no idea if they'd be interested, but I just have a feeling that they let go a young player called Keeler.

Before we get to the, sort of the big picture stuff we wanted to talk about with you, a bit of news out of the Hawks today, so we'll go through that quickly.

The first is, uh, the de-listing of, um, Max Ramsden and Flynn Perez, announced this morning, but with the opportunity to retrain with the club, with a view to being picked up again as SSPs.

Have they agreed to...

Is that been done in the knowledge that they will retrain, or is it, uh, the... or is that, uh, up to them at the moment?