Flyleaf

Mm-hmm.

And it actually, it was funny 'cause we weren't sure what we were gonna do until we played the Flyleaf show in Anaheim.

Ah, okay.

And we were on the bus.

"We will never do tracks."

Oh, yeah.

Uh, Flyleaf is one of those.

They do everything live, which is so cool.

We did.

Again by Flyleaf.

Um, so just three banger tunes, all sort of slightly different, but all female-fronted.

Yeah.

And when I close my-

Can I tell you, I totally heard that 'cause I was like, is it like a Flyleaf situation? I can feel it all around me.

And I said, "Girl, me too.

I'm alive." I didn't know it was about God.

Yeah, right.

I was just screaming, and the walls were...

You know, like Flyleaf's just giving a vibe.

Yeah.

We did, like... maybe one thing because because there was a lot of hurt wrapped up in music for him because you know he was an extremely talented musician um but there was a lot of hurt there and he was like and also he was rock and roll so he didn't i think there was a part of him that was like he didn't want his precious babies to be like yeah in the music scene because he was in the like

Have you ever heard of a band called Flyleaf? Does that ring a bell to you? They've got like a, I don't want to, it's not opera, don't get me wrong, but the woman, the lead singer, so it's a very heavy rock, borderline metal.

I do know Flyleaf.

Yes, I do.

And she's kind of got quite a voice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There was a moment where there was like Flyleaf and there was...

yeah, absolutely.

So I am heavily influenced by bands like Flyleaf and Evanescence.

My goal with my music is kind of to, to reach people that need to hear God's word, but maybe don't want to be preached at, you know? And that's what, that's sort of what Flyleaf did for me when I was a teenager, because one of my friends from high school who also wasn't Christian told me to listen to Flyleaf.

And I was obsessed with Evanescence at the time.

And he was like, oh, they're better than Evanescence.

Because I was just like, I wanted to be Amy Lee, which makes me feel like a dork now.

But she was like my thing back then.

And I listened to Flyleaf.

You had P.O.D., You had Head and Fieldy from Korn.

You had Lacey Sturm from Flyleaf.

And then, of course, my buddy Dave Buckner from Papa Roach.

You also had Curtis Hoppy, who's a local hip hop artist out of the Boise area.

Or Sleep Togan.

I've heard Flyleaf multiple times in Walmart.

Multiple.

That's your jam, then.

It's not my

jam.

I ain't listening to Flyleaf.

Yeah,