Fighting game community

It's kind of interesting because...

In this period of time, this span of time that we've had, especially the past six months, the FGC has been sort of rough for me, where it's like there's been a lot of negativity in the online space especially, which is just the nature of all fandoms in the online space in general.

So I've been feeling a little disconnected from a lot of it and just doing my own thing and playing whatever the hell I want.

whenever the hell I want to and it's been nice like I've just been sort of like figuring out which games I enjoy the most whether or not something like Tokon did well or didn't do well and didn't really have that have an effect on my personal take on content making or video producing so I just love Doctor Doom in that game so much I just try to play it whenever I possibly can even though it's about to get changed again So yeah, like I'm trying to think of anything I'm playing consistently that that Street Fighter 4 rollback thing is incredible.

Like, man, this is really cool.

Well, first, Max,

FGC is a very negative place.

That's why I take my ass to Instagram.

What was Riot's fighting game called? He

saw... yes he saw 2x ko getting shut down and he said oh wow i thought this was going to be the fgc killer i thought it was going to be the next big thing let me tell you it's a bad thing that this game failed and he relished in it because anytime anything's called a blank killer or like the next big thing he shits all over it because of this okay no that that one he received okay because he's the biggest can i speak can i speak can i speak

can i speak go ahead so that one dm is not related to the 2x ko thing i think the 2xk i don't want to stomp on 2x ko's grave too hard it's just that when 2x ko was going through its early stages of development and like hype cycle right of like back when it was still called project l which you know ironic looking back at it because it's a big fat l now but okay i'll stop yeah yeah no i gotta stop taking the easy pot shots But when it was going through its easy cycle development hype cycle, people were going like, dude, finally, a game that will be financially supported by Riot, who has infinite money, and it's going to save the FGC from poverty.

I don't know.

There were people who were putting all their eggs in one basket of saying, dude, I'm going to put Smash Bros. behind me, and I'm going to fully focus on 2XKO because it's going to save the FGC.

I hate it

when people are excited about a new game.

Okay, Ebeneezer.

Mm-hmm.

But in another lifetime before Kresta did wrestling, I did a lot of FGC things, fighting game community things.

And a few of the people who I grew up with who also do fighting games stuff, they're in the movie.

Like, I don't know if you know who Yipes is.

He does, um, FGC commentary.

He's mad cool.

He's in the movie.

Everybody is getting some DLC, and we're rolling back the years.

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That's my theory.

I feel like the money, the whole FGC money thing has been debunked as the City of the Wolves.

I feel like that argument never works.

Okay, but if you're in two of them-

[laughs]

So, and then I think the, the neutral management in, on Ultimate is really complex, and, you know, things like DI, all these different interactions, percent management, actually really complex games.

But people in the traditional FGC air, um, community get a little caught up on just, like, "Oh, I can press B in a direction, get a special move." Like-

[laughs]

Mm-hmm.

Uh, you're in the FGC, and you're in LCS.

Um, you've also, it seems like, tried on very, a, a few different hats in terms of your LCS identity, 'cause some teams, as we know, love to, uh, you know, splash out, get all the big players.

You guys have had years where you've done extremely well, where you literally almost beat Gen.G in an international tournament.

Well, keep an eye on it, guys.

Uh, we'll get back to our conversation with Brian.

So I want to talk about the other games that FlyQuest is involved in, uh, because the FGC is obviously really interesting because as far as NA esports goes, like that's, you know, uh, uh, FGC is core-

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And, you know, they're one of the big dogs.

So, uh, Adin is actually, like, from the Smash community, fighting game adjacent, so, like, they're familiar with the FGC, what it is, and, uh, familiar with fighting games.

They don't play them heavily.

I mean, hey, man, Adin's on the Trash Talk podcast.

He seems to

... wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't.

Why would he? Um, 'cause like that's the, the part about this podcast that I think a lot of people were frustrated by in the core FGC, the small niche audience watching this, is they wanted to know the specifics about like the gameplay directions.

Because he basically, he provides, uh, very high level insight into that, and we can piece together the timeline with other pieces of interviews we have over the years, right? 'Cause remember, uh, Mark Merrill leaves Riot around 2017, which is a year after Riot acquired Radiant Games.

But if I had a fight stick, it's like, oh, it's like, oh, wonderful, 'cause that's what, that's how you designed the game.

It's like, yeah, it's 2026 though, and we don't need to design everything around the FGC, which is probably the biggest problem in modern day fighting games, is that they're all designed to be competitive rather than, you know, fun.

Yeah, and I don't know how much input they took, ArkSys did for, from the FGC for Marvel Tokan, 'cause I, I know it takes a while for them to get into the circulation into the, into the FCG- GC tournaments and whatnot, but, uh, you know, I don't really [laughs] you know, hear a whole ton of support for, to bring it in into the rotation or anything like that, so, um-

No, I liked, uh...

I was not the world's biggest fan of Fatal Fury.