Fernando Garibay

Mm-hmm.

Right? [laughs] And, um, in there, uh, I was, I was managing a, uh, a producer named Fernando Garibay, who later on went to do Lady Gaga.

Oh, wow.

Uh, and, uh, we were there in the, in, you know, doing the songs with this writer that would come in named Bruno, you know? It's...