Fédération Internationale des Sociétés Magiques

Is that a word?

Yeah, but now are you guys going to be FISM nominated? Anymore as a podcast? Fuck you.

Yeah, right.

That's unfortunate.

So

imagine had you guys done podcasts.

Are we the first FISM nominees of all time that didn't even perform that year? In all

fairness, we did perform once when we had something to sell.

All right.

And that was Wayne Alan, the, uh, the illusionist, the magician FISM winner.

I forgot to mention FISM winner, uh, and, uh, an author of the new Houdini timeline.

And, uh, we, uh, thank Wayne for coming and, um, Don't forget to grab your copy of the Houdini Coloring Book, which you can get on Amazon.com. Just type in Houdini Coloring Book in the search engine and you can get your copy.

Get it for Halloween.

And you said a thousand shows you have to do before you feel confident on stage.

Was there any preparation at all, like extra for that performance? Or was it just everything? You had just come back from FISM, right? No, this was before FISM.

You

were preparing.

Yeah, this was a year or two before FISM.

Yeah, it was a year before FISM.

What happened was this.

In 19...

I've seen...

In the world of magic, there's a contest called FISM.

It's the Olympics of magic.

It's the closest thing to actually being respected that a magician gets to appreciate.

And in service of that, the most extraordinary deceptions get created that could never work in the real world, but they work for exactly seven minutes at the world's most interesting magic deceptive event.

So look into tapping therapy.

Uh, I used it to prepare for FISM.

Uh, when we, uh, when we were doing, when we were doing the tapping therapy, we would put me in this, in this headspace where I was visualizing seeing judges, seeing thousands of magicians, the lights, the sounds, the high-pressure situation, and we would go through these things.

Uh, and it got down to the point where I could, uh, tap on the side of a finger, uh, or I think what we did was we, um-- Oh yeah, no, it was the side of the finger because there's, there's certain things where I'm talking and I'm, uh, I can sort of illustrate something or count with my fingers, and it was a natural action, but that action was on purpose because it was from my tapping therapy to be able to elicit the calmness.

Today, we're joined by Felice Ling, known as Just Felice, an award-winning magician and international street performer.

She's a 2025 FISM Street Magic finalist and the founder of the Boston Magic Lab.

Her show, Just Felice Makes Friends, brings magic and awkward comedy to the search for connection.

Felice, welcome to Wes Eisley's Magic Life.

I'm the reader, Felice.

Just bear with me here, honey.

But listen, 2025 FISM finalist?

Yeah.