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FDA Food Safety Modernization Act

FDA Food Safety Modernization Act

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Sep 14, 2026

Melanie Nuce-HiltonGUEST
12:18
That's part of where I think government and industry working together is a fascinating opportunity for us.
Melanie Nuce-HiltonGUEST
12:25
There is regulation today called the Food Safety Modernization Act.
Melanie Nuce-HiltonGUEST
12:29
that the US Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, put into place in 2011, but they are now in the process of implementing the food traceability rule.
Melanie Nuce-HiltonGUEST
12:39
We call it FSMA Rule 204.
speaker_0HOST
2:41
It really is.
DonHOST
2:41
So let's dig into the FDA's food traceability rule, specifically Section 204 of the Food Safety Modernization Act, or FSMA.
speaker_0HOST
2:50
Right.
speaker_0HOST
2:50
So the Food Safety Modernization Act has been this, um, looming giant in the room since, what, 2011?
DonHOST
2:56
Yeah, over a decade ago.
speaker_0HOST
2:57
And the philosophical goal was always to move the US food supply chain away from reacting to a deadly E. coli outbreak, and toward preventing it before the contaminated product even reaches a loading dock.
speaker_1HOST
26:39
It is a regulatory minefield out there right now for anyone involved in sourcing and purchasing.
speaker_1HOST
26:44
The biggest, most immediate looming threat is FSMA Rule 204.
DonHOST
26:48
For the uninitiated, let's break this down.
DonHOST
26:49
What does FSMA actually stand for? And why is Rule 204 making supply chain managers lose sleep?
speaker_1HOST
26:55
Okay.
speaker_1HOST
26:56
FSMA stands for the Food Safety Modernization Act.
speaker_1HOST
27:00
It was a sweeping overhaul of U.S. food safety laws.
speaker_1HOST
27:03
Rule 204 is the specific mandate within it that deals with traceability, and the compliance deadline is looming very fast.
Joe LynchHOST
45:49
Yes.
Joe LynchHOST
45:50
The Food Safety Modernization Act, which I don't know, it's what, seven, eight years old now? Longer than that.
Joe LynchHOST
45:56
Signed by President Obama back then.
Joe LynchHOST
45:59
When we made that update, I did a lot of training for companies on that.
Joe LynchHOST
46:03
And the expectation is there's a chain of custody and you need to be able to prove that it stayed in temperature range Otherwise, you're violating the Food Safety Modernization Act.
Joe LynchHOST
46:19
That won't be tolerated.
Joe LynchHOST
46:20
The FDA expects this.
Hal KingGUEST
27:20
But I think the lag compression is the number one thing we want to do, um, is try to get as close as we can to as soon, as soon as we have an illness report, we can identify what it is.
Hal KingGUEST
27:30
And that's, that's the reason why the FSMA, um, rules for traceability are so important for the industry and for the government because that will suppress that lag time to identify the commodity and remove it from service.
Hal KingGUEST
27:42
Um, I think it's, it's just very, very important to, I think now in a lot of good brands that are really focusing and investing in food safety are trying to c- shorten that lag phase away from waiting for customer illness signals to when, what are the predictive type things that would suggest my product's gonna be contaminated.
Hal KingGUEST
28:01
And that's getting into more testing and more, and more testing of identification of irrigation waters, um, that sort of thing.
Flora LichtmanHOST
7:24
What's the traceability rule?
Brian RonholmGUEST
7:25
So there was a law passed in 2011, Food Safety Modernization Act, and within that law, there was a provision that required the industry to set up a adequate traceability system that would allow the industry to trace back a, a particular product down to its source in an efficient manner, therefore just limiting the impact of a recall, right? So if, if they're able to trace back a particular product down to the source, they're able to identify it quicker, identify source of an outbreak quicker, and pull that product, and thus limiting the consumer exposure and lower the risk of, of additional illnesses.
Brian RonholmGUEST
8:04
That was the key provision in the law, but under industry pressure, uh, FDA has delayed the implementation of that rule.
Brian RonholmGUEST
8:13
Um, and so now it's, it's not gonna go into effect until July 2028, and that's 17 years after the original law was passed.
Adrienne BloomHOST
22:08
So according to the FLPC, the bill's preemption provision would likely affect state and local requirements covering food additives and chemicals, food labeling and warnings, chemical and biological contaminants, retail food stores and food service establishments, cottage food and home kitchen operations, and food manufacturing permits and inspections.
Adrienne BloomHOST
22:31
And that could include requirements such as state additive bans, restaurant allergen disclosures, controls for things like heavy metals and PFAS, restaurant licensing and inspections, and oversight of smaller food manufacturers that are exempt from certain requirements under the Food Safety Modernization Act.
Adrienne BloomHOST
22:49
Now, one of the FLPC's central concerns was that federal preemption under the bill would not depend on whether a corresponding federal requirement actually exists.
Adrienne BloomHOST
22:59
So in other words, state protections could potentially be eliminated in areas where there is little or no equivalent federal regulation.

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Sandra EskinGUEST
29:02
Yeah.
Sandra EskinGUEST
29:03
Now I'm going to speak as the daughter of a builder, which I am, but actually I'm going to go back to, to the point.
Sandra EskinGUEST
29:08
It, it, it's, I was saying earlier that I remember many years ago before the Food Safety Modernization Act was enacted that I had worked with an organization to try to push for menu labeling.
Sandra EskinGUEST
29:23
And what we wanted was one federal standard.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
16:01
They just said, "We're gonna voluntarily recall this, and oh, by the way, Taylor Farms is linked to it.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
16:07
Go chase them down more because they already have a target on their back." They literally have not owned up to anything as an importer, and they're under a little bit of a different legal situation because they are what's called an importer of record underneath the Food Safety Modernization Act Foreign Supplier Verification program.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
16:32
Whereas Taylor Farms de Mexico imported its own product, and therefore they were able to do the trace back, albeit in a cumbersome way, much quicker.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
16:47
So the complexities of the supply chain when dealing with importers is much like Dante's Inferno.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
21:23
And even when they do, those personnel on the state level may not be qualified in the areas.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
21:32
So when we're talking about a lot of produce inspections, there are certain states that simply do not have the staff that are adequately qualified to help perform investigations along with the FDA.
Kiley Harper-LarsenGUEST
21:49
They've been highly dependent for the entirety of the Food Safety Modernization Act and its investigation requirements following the 2011 Listeria monocytogene outbreak that happened in cantaloupes on the State Departments of Agriculture and the State Departments of Health to help them in performing many of the local investigative duties, and it just simply is impossible to get out there.
Eric MooreGUEST
22:21
So then what is a US importer required to verify when you're talking about foreign suppliers?
David StelzerGUEST
51:06
Because they're, you know, the rules are the same.
David StelzerGUEST
51:10
There's small, there's exceptions for really small facilities, like from FISMA, Food Safety Modernization Act and things like that.
David StelzerGUEST
51:21
but there's not for middle market.
David StelzerGUEST
51:24
So you're having to jump through all those hoops.
Christina HerrickGUEST
39:10
Yeah, well, I think the hard part is, you know, as we've talked, as Frank Giannis talked uh on the show you know customers are divisive right there you're getting information from a lot of places you're getting it from x you're getting it from tick tock you're getting it maybe hopefully from anger talk um all over the place and so it's really hard for the industry to be in all of those places at once maybe some some places not not naturally um not naturally used to having to be that consumer forward But I really think like hitting in on food safety, what's already in place, I think is really important.
Christina HerrickGUEST
39:51
And then to answer your question even more, I think, you know, this hopefully will be a motivation for the traceability part of the Food Safety Modernization Act.
Christina HerrickGUEST
40:01
which has been delayed to 2028, which I think producers have to be able to provide full traceback information.
Christina HerrickGUEST
40:11
So a grocery store all the way back to a farm within 24 hours of a notice from the FDA.

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