
Farzan Sabet
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Sep 9, 2026
Inside an escalating tit-for-tat in Iran
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Nil KöksalHOST
We're still open to, to talking." Uh, so what do you think is actually going to happen? I mean, are these statements both for, for just domestic audiences, or are they signaling something to each other r- as well?

Farzan SabetGUEST
So, uh, the, the Iranians, they're willing and they're actually seeking to re-implement the MOU, uh, that was kind of already in place in June.

Farzan SabetGUEST
But they wanna make it clear that they retain control over the Strait of Hormuz, uh, either formally in an agreement or, you know, informally, where maybe they come to an, some kind of arrangement with Oman, and the US, while not publicly accepting it, signs off on it.

Farzan SabetGUEST
Uh, on the other hand, the US, uh, at least for the time being, doesn't appear to be particularly interested in a deal.

Farzan SabetGUEST
Uh, and, you know, the, the Iranians believe that, uh, President Trump can kind of be squeezed more or is more likely to give them concessions in the lead-up to the m- midterm elections.
Nil KöksalHOST
What are they telling you about? Because we're talking about livelihoods, but certainly lives, uh, uh, as, as this drags on.
Sunk Costs & Diminishing Returns of Iran's Nuclear Program w/ Farzan Sabet
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3:11Chris KeeferHOST
Interested in just getting a sense, I guess, of the atmosphere in which the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, started to pursue this advanced technology in the 60s and 70s.

Farzan SabetGUEST
You know, as you mentioned, the Iranian nuclear program originates under President Wadi Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace program.

Farzan SabetGUEST
Iran in particular launches its cooperation with the U.S. in 1955, with some negotiations happening after 1953 when that program is launched, you know, leading up to 1955.

Farzan SabetGUEST
But the program, you know, really between 1955 and 1973, 1974, is really a sideshow.

Farzan SabetGUEST
It's kind of a series of small infrastructure projects and science experiments, building up technological know-how, getting Iranians familiar with the science and engineering related to nuclear power and the nuclear industry, but it's really quite small and has minimal funding.

Farzan SabetGUEST
The real game changer is the 1973 oil crisis, which has proceeded by a decade during which, you know, Iran, you know, is kind of gaining greater control over its energy industry, which was previously under very strong kind of British and later consortium of kind of Western companies control.

Farzan SabetGUEST
As Iran gains a greater share in its oil industry, has greater revenues to invest and play around with, and is able to kind of get a greater and greater share over time.
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67:14Chris KeeferHOST
I'm sorry for the very meandering question, but if you're able to take that and run with it, I'd appreciate it.