Far Cry 2

Plus the sale, plus what I own.

I already own Far Cry 2.

So it should have, yeah.

So I

It's like, well, it's this book or it's this game or it's this music or it's this time in history.

And then what are the other ways? And then some people just want to talk about way that a game rolled out or talking a lot about audience and the way that their audience connected with it edmund macmillan from the binding of isaac is a brilliant conversation in that regard and again i it's he's just like you can tell he's thinking long and hard about what his game is and what it's going to mean to people um who else did i get to speak to clint hocking again someone with an uh he did a fight cry far cry 2 um the original spin cell games Watchdog Legions you know someone with a real encyclopedic knowledge of games and I would put him under Josh Sawyer in terms of like someone who sort of has this top down view and like okay this is why this works this is why this doesn't work and then they're trying to apply it and you know they themselves I think can self-admit they say you know especially when you've got such an ambitious like Far Cry 2 is such an ambitious game and then to hear Clint talk about well this worked this didn't this is why this is why I think it did this is why I think it didn't um The thing across the board with anyone I speak to really is they've all had a willingness to sort of take a risk, to take a punt on something, whether they be an indie developer or working for a big studio.

Ben Fisher from Atomfall, that was a great conversation.

That was really diving into the nuance and the necessary steps that need to be taken to grab a player at the beginning of a game.

Yeah, field manuals is the one, yeah.

So if you want to do some Far Cry 2, hit me up.

Yeah, definitely.

Definitely do that.

I don't know why I'm going against my instinct.

I was gonna go Far Cry 2, I think, so I'd have been wrong, but I was gonna go Far Cry.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Oh, okay

... like, actually in pain.

So I checked the Far Cry 2 and the 3 ones, and it was the first time they actually reacted to stabbing himself with a knife and pulling bullets out.

There you go.

There was a certain point in my life where I had my first child.

And I remember I was playing Far Cry 2.

And I suddenly realized the scope of it.

And I was like, I don't want to play this anymore because I've only got two hours an evening to myself.

You know? It's tough.

It was inter- and I, you know, I spoke with Clint Hocking from, who did Far Cry 2, um, about this, and, you know, we just talk about, like, why gaming, and what he, we talked about was there's something really nice about doing something that has a problem that can always be solved.

For sure.

Um, whereas life has problems that often can't be solved, or they certainly aren't solved the way, you know, or they're solved, but it takes three and a half years, you know, [laughs] of, of litigation or something.

Sorry,

I accidentally dropped my copy of Far Cry 2 for the PC.

Vine sauce.

What else do I have? This is a camera from the 1930s.

You know, it didn't do well.

It got taken away from us around alpha.

I've been on projects before where, like, literally the marketing team comes in and says, "You have to add a capture the flags mode to this game."

[laughs]

And at one of these milestones, we took all of the, like, standard definitions.

You know, we have a prototype, and a vertical slice, an alpha, beta.

We took those away and just replaced it with, like, this part of the timeline was consumed by murder hornets.

And h-