family policy

Yeah.

But also, I mean, and I think you and I would agree with this maybe, is like people with skin in the game when it comes to family policy, right?

Yes.

Like folks who aren't necessarily great-grandparents, but people who are actually engaging with the challenges of raising kids in this country.

And I think what often happens is you have these initiatives that Are underinvested in and then are disappointing to everyone, and then people get, um, discouraged and, and start to, um, you know, lose trust.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think there is a sense in which, uh, good family policy really does need to have a go big or go home mentality.

Um, like, as much as I'm, like...