Failed State

Jesus Christ.

But it's something to be said of, I've always kind of had this line of where entertainment and where music and where art falls into you know real issues and real you know because I'm someone that comes from both sides of it I think a lot of times I actually just had a conversation with Chris Bell who's a great filmmaker that's put out the movie Failed State which is a fantastic critique of dehumanized gig economy during the pandemic and all these different things of like the The line of is, are you letting entertainment do the activism for you, which I think is the case for a lot of Western media, right? Or are you learning something from a compelling art piece, right? And I'm sure you feel that way as a musician and someone that's been embedded in the musical world for a long time.

But I've seen a few things from you in the past, especially when and we'll get into the relation of Macklemore and Ed Sheeran, which people beat this to death.

But I think it's an interesting thing to kind of look at, not just from the discourse, but the broader picture of I was listening through something that you had said a while back.