Electronic wind instrument

And second, I love that it really forced me to slow my thoughts down.

You know, coming from a background studying jazz for a very long time, very intensively since I was like 14 years old, you know, 13, like as a trumpet player, there's a lot of muscle memory and just these like, you know habitual sort of like riffs and things that you do on your instrument that you don't even you're not aware that you're doing them you know so the Eevee was like I didn't have any of that it was just I really had to force myself to slow down because you have to use your left hand to change the octave and to change like down a fourth and so Yeah, just the mechanism was like learning a new instrument, but it had some of the same qualities of the trumpet, and so yeah, it just fascinated me, and I was like, okay, I'm going to get into this, and here we are like five years later, and I only play the trumpet on like one song on the live show, and I play the E.V. pretty much the rest of the time, so...

And you see it still being, I really, really love it.

I think it's really touching and expressive.

But I think, you know, by the time I met Vinny, well, I met him actually before like 82, 83, my brother and I had opened up for his band dog cheese, which was basically just about the rhythm section of Joni.

It was Michael Landau, Larry Klein, Vinny with Steve Tavlone on, uh, at that point he was playing the EWI.

He wasn't playing a sax.

And, um, You know, meeting him then, and then four years later, he came in and he was brought in by my request to play a couple of tunes on a David Becker Tribune record, our second.