Eugene Podkletnov

Uh, and there are other groups of physicists like Rostchin and Godin in Russia who have looked into John Searle's claims, and they too found weight anomalies and other, uh, magnetic vortex anomalies, anomalous walls.

The government's, uh, Dr. Eugene Podkletnov, he's another researcher in rotating superconductors, he said that he was influenced by John Searle as well.

His experiments with rotating superconductors, uh, he attempted with NASA, but before they could test the rotating superconductor in a cryostat in the vacuum and drop the temperature and actually do those, uh, real tests, the claim is that they ran out of budget, and the Department of Defense came in and then took back all of the stuff, and they never got to com- uh, complete their, their test.

That was handed over to Dr. Ning Li, who is this Chinese lady who worked in anti-gravity research, who got top secret clearance to study rotating superconductors, gravitational anomalies.