Yeah.

Okay.

How long does that take? Well, it depends on if we're online.

So it's like, okay, well, you know, if you're not calling in the first 30 seconds or texting the first 30 seconds.

And I said, what if you do get to it quickly? Well, I call and they don't answer.

It usually goes straight to voicemail, leave them voicemail and try them later.

Like, do you ever call them twice in a row? They're like, oh, no, I don't want to annoy people.

yeah

Mm-hmm

... to reduce side effects.

So one of the compounds that they use for that are called, uh, hydrazones, and they are used because, um, they have a tendency to break apart in acidic environments, and then tumors are more, tumors or cells are more acidic than your blood level.

So you can have it kind of as like a drug delivery mechanism so it's safe, and then it breaks apart and it attacks just the things that you want to reduce side effects.

So I made a lot of those compounds-

Yeah.

But then also a big thing is presenting.

So, like, here at Monmouth you do a science seminar where, uh, people in all the different departments or programs, um, present their research to an audience.