Ethan O'rourke

That's kind of what it's all about.

Vuki's departure and Luke's departure has led to Ethan O'Rourke being able to move from Wilkes-Barre here, but it's also led to Amanda Kessel and Andy Socher in particular being able to take on more responsibility, Nicole Gehring taking on more responsibility.

And now it fuels their growth and you have to kind of backfill with younger people behind them and do some hiring there.

So we're very proud of both Vuki and Luke.