Espoo

To be more clear, uh, I was born in Vantaa and-

And I was born in Espoo, so- south of Finland.

Yeah, it's like they're both cities right next to Helsinki.

I'll start.

We're, we're hearing a lot about partnerships as kind of a key growth lever in 2026.

You've obviously got your, your work with the City of Espoo and Aalto University.

What role does partnerships play in your current growth strategy for, for NADMIN?

Critical.

And so it helps.

We have five or six nationalities in our mother church in Helsinki, Espoo area.

And then we have Finnish and Filipino in our northern congregation.

And then, of course, the other congregation is primarily Filipino as well.

Saija's a legend.

She lives in Espoo, so not too far from Helsinki.

In fact, I think she's in Helsinki for work.

This is a little bit of a tangent, but the way that I met Saija was actually during COVID lockdowns, and it was a time where a lot of people who used to ride bikes for sport started riding bikes indoors, and I use a platform called Zwift.