Ernie Fletcher

Uh, one of the things we see, um, real common is this revolving door between politicians and nonprofits.

In this case, you have Ernie Fletcher, a former Kentucky governor.

He's a Republican, but you know I calls them as I sees them.

Uh, getting a contract.

Let's talk about the nonprofit grift real quick.

So the nonprofit grift side of things.

So this Fletcher Group Incorporated is a nonprofit f- f- uh, founded by former Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher.

Um, it ex- almost exclusively pulls in its money from government grants, from government contracts, from the government giving it money.

The governor announced today that Van Ingram, head of Kentucky's Office of Drug Control Policy, is retiring at the end of 2026.

Ingram has been with the office since 2004 when Ernie Fletcher was governor.

Before that, he worked 23 years for the Maysville Police Department and spent six years as chief.

chief.He will be replaced by Tera Hyde, CEO of People Advocating Recovery.

You ran for Congress in 1996.

Ernie Fletcher was the other Republican in that primary for the congressional seat, and you lost by four votes.

And then two years after, you ran for the state Senate and lost as well.

What were some of the lessons you've learned in your defeat? Well, the importance of a single