Can you tell us particularly about the report written by the joint fact-finding team that was commissioned by President Habibie at the time? How did it come to be, and what did it find?

Yeah.

Thank you for the question, uh, Jemma.Maybe before I go further, I also want to say that my heartfelt support to all of the victims of the May 1998 events, especially the sexual violence victims and their families.

Maybe many of them also hear about this podcast.

And I also want to state that what we are discussing will be triggering to many people, therefore please tread carefully and feel free to stop listening if you experience any trauma.

So back to your questions, Gemma.

Yeah, actually before that TGPF or fact-finding team, there was an independent team, Tim Relawan untuk Kemanusiaan.

Tell us about the selection of those judges to begin with and how the court is set up.