Erik Arroyo

What happened then?

Well, I just want to back up a minute because one thing that I think was important to the City Commission rejecting the project in 2025 were the results of the 2024 City Commission election in which Kathy Kelly Ulrich was elected for District 3, replacing Eric Arroyo.

And I...

I think it's very questionable whether the city commission would have rejected the project.

I understand things happen.

But my point is there are red flags sometimes.

And with Eric Arroyo, I think...

the District 3 folks, because that was a district race, and I think that was 2020... 2019, maybe, at that point, or 2020.