Well, what, well, what podcast?

Well, here's the, the...

Uh, that's a great question.

Uh, I do not know the answer to that.

And also funny was that I was never actually really, uh, directly invited to this.

I never spoke to the, the organizer, who knows me so well from the time I met him that I don't remember.

Um, and I just got a text- ... from people who are going, and they're like, "Oh, yeah, you should, you should come to this," but I was never given the information, so I felt like I had plausible deniability.

Like, a lot of times the jury just gives it to the person that comes in with the most spirit.

Yeah

... an extremely fluid Endgame, which is really interesting.

Um, the, the great Adam Pock, who I have now tried to name-drop every week of this series, he, he came to me with a theory last night that was very interesting, and you're a great person to discuss this with.

Uh, he was suggesting that this season is playing out like some of the more fluid Survivor voting block seasons, that because D and Devin's are there and they're very malleable, they'll work with whoever gets them to the objective that they need, and the blockbuster of it all, that we have these constantly shifting groups, and I think that that's really interesting.

We've seen so many times, uh, the house, the house, the house.

And I, I love the fact that instead we're getting these groups that are coming together for a common cause or self-preservation, and I think it's, it's probably the most dynamic endgame we've had in several years, uh, where everyone is really still in it.

Like y- when you talk about who's most likely to go in the double, almost everybody you could see a viable case for-

Like, a lot of times the jury just gives it to the person that comes in with the most spirit.

So do we think we bring Yash back next season?

Uh, yes, and, [laughs] yes, and then everybody does very hateful, horrible things, and he follows his, his reign.

And, yeah, it, it, it could turn dark if, if we see him again.

But the people figuring it out on the fly and learning the game and having fun with it.

But his, his energy is, is right.

It's interesting, earlier in the season we were getting, like, you know, Kamu as the leader of the opposition, and he had this very, like, level and dry personality.

This sort of, like, energy, like, "I'm hyped," um, it's so Big Brother.

Yes

So do you think we bring Yash back next season?

Uh, yes, and, [laughs] yes, and then everybody does very hateful, [laughs] horrible things, and he follows his, his reign.

And yeah, it, it, it could turn dark if, if we see him again, but the people figuring it out on the fly and learning the game and having fun with it, but his, his energy is, is right.

It's interesting, earlier in the season, we were getting like, you know, Kamu as the leader of the opposition, and he had this very, like, level and dry personality.

This sort of, like, energy, like I'm hyped, um, it's so Big Brother.

I, honestly, I think he's, feels like one of the most Big Brother characters to Big Brother in a really long time.

Um, it- it's, it's like, uh, Tucker-esque, but if he was actually making sound decisions sometimes or playing well occasionally.

Yes

Yeah

...

I, I, I, you know, as someone who showmanced, uh, in the Big Brother house, I do enjoy a slow burn, and I enjoy people who enjoy each other's company, whether or not there is ever an outside relationship here.

Uh, you know, to be real for a moment, having someone who you...

Well, [laughs] that's actually the problem here.

I was gonna say, having someone who you can trust, uh, you know, goes a long way in the Big Brother house.

The problem is they cannot trust each other.

Yeah.

Yeah

...

I, I, I, you know, as someone who showmanced, uh, in the Big Brother house, I do enjoy a slow burn, and I enjoy people who enjoy each other's company, whether or not there is ever an outside relationship here.

Uh, you know, to be real for a moment, having someone who you...

Well, [laughs] that's actually the problem here.

I was gonna say, having someone who you can trust, uh, you know, goes a long way in the Big Brother house.

The problem is they cannot trust each other.

Yeah.

But there were some disruptions, right?

There was a very, very minor disruption.

And you know, it's interesting because leading up to this, there was anxiety for us, and we've heard it from people in the community about whether or not they'd be coming to a place where they would be accosted and made to feel uncomfortable.

Leading up to things over the last couple of weeks, we've seen a lot of pretty disgusting commentary on social media posts and advertisements of ours.

Stuff that really just says more about the ignorance of the people posting, but at the same time conveys an impression of maybe there's a threat here.

Maybe people are gonna come and try to disrupt this thing.

And even the night before, Saturday, I was pretty anxious about it.

Give us some more of the highlights.

So then, Eric, I know the father because I saw the movie with Anthony Hopkins.

Yeah.

Same father.

The movie is based on the play.

The play was actually originally written in French.

Florian Zeller wrote it for a famous French actor.

Just wanted to write something for this man, and he came up with this idea.

other cast members we should mention

You can't, yeah.

So instead, you can just come along for the ride with me.

So I went to the beach on Saturday.

The parking lot was full, so I had to go into a spillover parking lot about 15 minutes down the road.

Paid for that parking.

I had dropped off my wife, my kids, all of our belongings at the first place, drove down myself.

As the day was ending, I had to come back to the first parking lot.

[laughs]

Yeah.

So instead, you can just come along for the ride with me.

So I went to the beach on Saturday.

The parking lot was full, so I had to go into a spillover parking lot about 15 minutes down the road.

Paid for that parking.

I had dropped off my wife, my kids, all of our belongings at the first place, drove down myself.

As the day was ending, I had to come back to the first parking lot.

[laughs]

Mm-hmm

... that we, uh, you know, a scratch and sniff sort of situation.

I did not know that this was something that, uh, tied to each other, the manscaping and it, um, sort of, uh, permeating through the, the air.

But I, I'm gonna go to bat here for Chuck a, a little bit.

Uh, this is probably an unpopular position, so I'm gonna, you know, like a, a debater, I'm going to choose a side here, and, and just play devil's advocate.

You know, you only get...

We, we talked about this with Yosh.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm

... that we, uh, you know, a scratch and sniff sort of situation.

I did not know that this was something that, uh, tied to each other, the manscaping, and it, um, sort of, uh, permeating through the, the air.

But I, I'm gonna go to bat here for Chuck a, a little bit.

Uh, I, this is probably an unpopular position, so I'm gonna, you know, like a, a debater, I'm going to choose a side here, and, and just play devil's advocate.

You know, you only get...

We, we've talked about this with Yash.

Yeah.

... with a new nominations.

Yeah.

So the likelihood that he had just, like, conjured up a, a great memory of the meaningless [laughs] coin of destiny, uh, it seems, seems far-fetched.

So I, if I were to list the first 30 powers that I would expect to be available through this twist, that would certainly not be, uh, one of them.

So I don't know what in the world he was talking about.

This was a horrendous week of gameplay all around for everyone.

Drew has, was in a completely fine position, whipped himself into an absolute frenzy playing both sides against each other for absolutely no reason.

Do you wanna know who Lyric's number one is?

... with the new nominations.

Yeah.

So the likelihood that he had just, like, conjured up a, a great memory of the meaningless [laughs] coin of destiny, uh, it seems, seems far-fetched.

So I, if I were to list the first 30 powers that I would expect to be available through this twist, that would certainly not be, uh, one of them.

So I don't know what in the world he was talking about.

This was a horrendous week of gameplay all around for everyone.

Drew has, was in a completely fine position, whipped himself into an absolute frenzy playing both sides against each other for absolutely no reason.

Do you wanna know who Lyric's number one is?

Mm-hmm.

And I, I can, uh, attest to the fact that sometimes hurtful things are said at the tea parties [laughs] potentially.

You know, if I, if I don't come with the right attire or the right attitude, I have been called out at a tea party or two in my time as well.

Um, to me, uh, and, and of course this has now been covered ad nauseam, I don't like staged theatrics.

Um, that is, that's not for me.

We don't need to have that.

If you really have a personality or y- or a bone to pick, that should just happen in real time.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

And I, I can, uh, attest to the fact that sometimes hurtful things are said at the tea parties [laughs] potentially.

You know, if I, if I don't come with the right attire or the right attitude, I have been called out at a tea party or two in my time as well.

Um, to me, uh, and, and of course this has now been covered ad nauseam, I don't like staged theatrics.

Uh, that is, that's not for me.

We don't need to have that.

If you really have a personality or y- or a bone to pick, that should just happen in real time.

Mm.

Yeah

... and now you're waking up in cold sweats again and saying, "But what if I just got that one question right in the HOH? This all could've been different." And then you see the person that you blame for it, and they're talking all kinds of crazy stuff online, and you just snap.

And I have, I have been there many, many, many times over the last 19 years, and a big part of me feels badly that they are, uh, in it right now, and that it's so fresh.

And then, of course, there is the other part of me that's like, "But this is really entertaining, and these are great characters, and I'm so glad that we found them.

I'm so glad that they're carrying the torch for us, and I hope that this leads to them being on a rival season, and I, I hope it never ends." It, it is great entertainment, um, in the same way you rubberneck a car crash.

Mm-hmm

... 10 years ago that has no relevance to what they're talking about now.

There is too much of an appetite for gotcha moments.

Yeah

... and now you're waking up in cold sweats again and saying, "But what if I just got that one question right in the HOH? This all could've been different." And then you see the person that you blame for it, and they're talking all kinds of crazy stuff online, and you just snap.

And I have, I have been there many, many, many times over the last 19 years, and a big part of me feels badly that they are, uh, in it right now, and that it's so fresh.

And then of course, there is the other part of me that's like, "But this is really entertaining, and these are great characters, and I'm so glad that we found them.

I'm so glad that they're carrying the torch for us, and I hope that this leads the, to them being on a rival season, and I, I hope it never ends." It, it is great entertainment, um, in the same way you rubberneck a car crash.

Mm-hmm

... 10 years ago that has no relevance to what they're talking about now.

There is too much of an appetite for gotcha moments.

Oof-ometer

... yes.

Back in the day, I used to apparently say oof too much.

So someone in the comments kept saying, "Stop saying oof." So, like I, you know, it's a typical response from me, I started saying oof a lot more often, and I worked it into the show, and we created the oof-ometer for how oofy something was.

Uh, one through five oofs.

This is a five oofer right here, and I had the pleasure of meeting Ashley last week, and Ashley is lovely.

She was, had a very interesting take on her season, her game.

Yeah

woo, woo, woo, woo.

It's true, I did go on a murderous rampage last summer and fall through the Big Brother house, but I have since resolved that.

But I'm going to say what these guys are too humble to say themselves.

It is a complete disgrace that Jonathan and Rob were not on Survivor 50.

Both of them belong there.

They are core to the Survivor story and they had more and new stories to tell.

And they're some of the best.

Anything else from our panel talking about this first Tribal Council? Eric? I

Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.

It's true.

I, I did go on a murderous rampage last summer and fall through the Big Brother house.

But, uh, I have since resolved that.

Um, but, uh, I'm gonna say what these guys are too humble to say themselves.

It is an complete disgrace that Jonathan and Rob were not on Survivor 50.

... from our panel, talking about this first tribal council? Erik.

I have two really minor points.