Eric Rosen

Right.

Might see it as, as Eric Rosen talks about, like a flashlight in a dark room, would see that section of the board lit up for them.

Or the classic lines of force that Benet in the 1890s talked about.

Yes, yes.

Yeah

... once I found him, and then I kind of supplement a little bit with Eric Rosen.

He's about the closest to, uh, to Naroditsky that's out there right now.

But yeah, I've kind of, I've kind of gone up in my tastes of...