Mm-hmm.

Um, but I, um, I discovered this, uh, by accident.

Uh, and it's part of a story that, uh, sets the, uh, you know, the, the, the place, uh, for, uh, Bitcoin.

Um, so I'm going to tell you this story [laughs] because it, uh, it helped me to go to the, the, the rabbit hole.

So it was in 2004, so long before, uh, Bitcoin existed.

I, um, so basically, I was living, um, I was an expat.

Um, and, uh, I, I needed to find, um, a bank, uh, you know, to manage everything because French bank, uh, it was impossible.

Right?