So why do you think that, let's start with just like personally for you guys, why do you think serving has such an impact on a child's faith?

Yeah, well, Steph, I love that you're doing this and talking about this because I think not only do I believe in this as a pastor, but we believe in this as a family.

We've seen it with our own eyes.

So we do something at our church once a month called Community Meals where we just, many people in our church come together to serve our community.

And we've got, we live in a community where there's a high unhoused population and there's a lot of opportunities to be the hands and feet of Jesus and to love and serve our community.

And so we've got people who gather, at these Saturday mornings to do bike repairs, to wash feet, to take care of medical needs, to provide food and clothing, and they get a breakfast.

There's a prayer station.

We were designed that way.