Eric Fanning

And we're going to talk a little bit about the budget issues.

with Eric Fanning of the Aerospace Industries Association and Mike Cyan of Bain next week.

And we hope to have them on to discuss the new report that Bain worked for AIA, the State of Investment in Defense Unlocking Growth.

And that's going to be the report will be out on Monday and we're going to be talking to them on Tuesday.

It was complicated and challenging in a lot of different ways, right? So I was one of a half dozen Obama appointees who were all out gay men.

Perhaps the most famous of those is Eric Fanning, who went on to be the secretary of the army, among other things.

And then my colleague, Sean Skelly, who in the Biden administration was assistant secretary of defense for readiness, making her the highest ranking trans person.

But from when I was sworn in January of 2012 through when I left, In those first 18 months, I was the first gay person most people knew they knew in the field.