Right.

Like, you, you should be a specialty putting, put onto a team.

And like, like our job is to be as best as we can with everything else to include CAS and be able to integrate seamlessly onto either an ODA or ranger team or, uh, you know, SEAL.

W- w- wherever, wherever you wanna stick us, we've gotta, we gotta train to their level and our level at this exact same time.

But there was a push for a good five or six years that, "Hey, we're, we're gonna do s- these unilateral missions and, and we're gonna have these, these ODA-type teams, and we're just gonna go and do our own thing." I'm like There's not a ground commander or theater commander in the world that's gonna s- let a freaking Air Force only ODA out to do anything on their own.

Go ahead, sorry.

So the, the guys that's gone through weapons school, um, we, when I was working with, um, McPhee, uh, with the, the ATG, we were doing ISR.

Uh, we were over in Hawaii on a, on a contract with the 25th ID.