
Emma Kell
Teacher, coach, and author focused on educator wellbeing; director of Those That Can Ltd
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Jun 16, 2026
Beyond Wellbeing: Building a Culture That Lasts
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Becky DawsonHOST
adults can be much harder work can't they absolutely absolutely you talk about the importance of the distinction between well-being and well-doing which is a phrase i really love what does that mean for you what does it actually look like in practice

Emma KellGUEST
yes this came out of several conversations with wise school leaders so none of my ideas are completely original you know i take other people's ideas and i distill them and i share them on so well doing came from a very wise head teacher i work with so i'm actually going to distinguish it three ways if that's okay so i'm going to talk about wellbeing, well-doing and wellness.

Emma KellGUEST
The reason I, so when I start any presentation about wellbeing, I start with this distinction.

Emma KellGUEST
If you go into a school with wellbeing emblazoned on the top of the brochure or whatever it is, you're going to get people.
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Becky DawsonHOST
So what are the things that you would want leaders to be thinking about and modeling in terms of a culture of wellbeing whilst looking after themselves?