
Emma E. Levine
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Nov 2, 2026
#122: Our Complicated Desire for Honesty with Emma Levine
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18:52Andy LuttrellHOST
Do you have any sense? Have you ever thought about just like, well, why do we keep holding this up on this pillar of like, this is the ultimate right thing to do is to tell the truth?

Emma LevineGUEST
I mean, one, I think that's the case for lots of different traits and behaviors and values in moral psychology and other areas, too, which is like in general, they're good.

Emma LevineGUEST
Like it's good to be nice, but it's not good to be like too nice or nice to bad people or nice to someone's enemies.
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Why Conversations Go Wrong
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Emma LevineGUEST
I think it's really unfortunate that this mother at the end of her life faced such uncertainty and was not given the chance to say goodbye to her son.

Emma LevineGUEST
Uh, and I understand the motivation behind not sharing the son's illness with the mother, especially if that was his wishes, right? It, it is pro-social in many senses, both to the son and to protect the mother.

Emma LevineGUEST
But in, you know, my own research and just reflections, those types of deception tend to be appreciated only when they're temporary, right? If now's not the right time because there's too much uncertainty or she's fragile, we don't have to tell her everything right away.

Emma LevineGUEST
But eventually, right, most people think you should reveal because there is instrumental value in that truth.
Shankar VedantamHOST
And, and perhaps in, in situations like that, you know, it's more complicated than to say it's just the individual person's decision about, about what to do.
Why Conversations Go Wrong
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Emma LevineGUEST
[sighs] I think it's really unfortunate that this mother at the end of her life faced such uncertainty and was not given the chance to say goodbye to her son.

Emma LevineGUEST
Uh, and I understand the motivation behind not sharing the son's illness with the mother, especially if that was his wishes, right? It, it is pro-social in many senses, both to the son and to protect the mother.

Emma LevineGUEST
But in, you know, my own research and just reflections, those types of deception tend to be appreciated only when they're temporary, right? If now's not the right time because there's too much uncertainty or she's fragile, we don't have to tell her everything right away.

Emma LevineGUEST
But eventually, right, most people think you should reveal because there is instrumental value in that truth.
Shankar VedantamHOST
And, and perhaps in, in situations like that, you know, it's more complicated than to say it's just the individual person's decision about, about what to do.
When It's Okay to Lie
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Emma LevineGUEST
So imagine that your spouse or partner is very, very ill and in the hospital, and you've cheated on them in the past.

Emma LevineGUEST
Should you tell them that you cheated on them? And this is kind of the basic question, but we randomize some details of this vignette.

Emma LevineGUEST
So in this case, about 30% of participants think it's the right thing to do to lie, so actually a substantial amount, even if your partner is likely to recover, think it's acceptable to lie to them about cheating.

Emma LevineGUEST
But this number goes up, it almost doubles, when you know your partner is about to pass away.
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When It's Okay to Lie
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Shankar VedantamHOST
But the more community-minded you are, the more you're embedded in social systems, the more you value those social systems, the more you try and take into account social harmony and how other people are feeling and not just, am I telling the truth or am I being lied to?

Emma LevineGUEST
It's an intuition I certainly had before heading into some cross-cultural research on this topic, which actually proved a bit more complicated than the story you've laid out.

Emma LevineGUEST
So it's easy to make a prediction that in China, where there's more collectivism versus the U.S., that they'll value social harmony and be more accepting of deception.

Emma LevineGUEST
than in the U.S. And now we see that in the medical context, but that seems to be a function of the belief and importance of hope and things we think about at the end of life and the role of luck, right? So knowing that you have cancer saying out loud kind of creates bad luck.

Emma LevineGUEST
So we ran studies looking at beliefs about and preferences for just critical feedback in the U.S. and China.