... bring it down, down a peg or two if you like.

No.

I think, uh, there was one point in my career where we made the decision to not really be sparring partners no more.

I was known for being a good sparring partner and stuff like that for the guys like AJ, Usyk, and stuff like that.

But then you will have some guys in their career, all they ever known is s- as being good sparring partners.

And, uh, Joby told me one day, he's like, "Yo, right now it's our time, so we're not being sparring partners no more.

What we do right now is we get sparring partners to come over and stuff like that." So I haven't been away for a camp with a world champion or nothing, as last time was with Usyk, and, um, I think this also just shows, uh, what we're doing, shows the intentions that we have.

Heidelberg.