Elwood E Richard

The biggest one was Pillsbury before that.

I have to say I'm not a family member nor an owner, but I'm a steward of what they built, our founder, Elwood Richard, had built.

And the family always had a vision of taking care of our people, of doing the right things for the right reasons with our teammates, our employees, you can say, but we think of them as teammates.

We operate as a business.

And, uh, I-- One of...

Um, I have to say I'm not, not a family member nor an owner, but, uh, I'm a steward of the-- what they built, our founder, Elwood Richard, had built.

And the family always had a vision of taking care of our people, of doing the right things for the right reasons with our, our teammates, our employees, you can say, but we think of them as teammates.

Uh, we, we operate as a business.

It came full circle to it.

And Elwood Richard, our founder, was a physical chemist.

And I interviewed with Elwood for three hours in the fall of 1994.

And he and I were talking chemistry and did a deep dive in it.