Elliot Roberts

And our suite had a piano in, in it.

When we came back from Woodstock, and Joni was supposed to play in Woodstock, but, uh, you know, Elliot Roberts and David Geffen, who, who handled Joni and CSNY, uh, uh, kept hearing that there were, you know, 50,000 people going.

Uh, no, the next week it was 100,000 people, and the next week it was 200,000 people.

And Joni had a, had to do a TV show, uh, with Dick Cavett, which was her first television show, and it was very important for her that she make it.

They got an offer to write the theme song for the show.

They ended up saying no on the advice of Neil Young's manager, Elliot Roberts, who also ran their record label.

If you don't know him, Roberts managed a lot of artists over the years, including Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, and many more.

Elliot advised against that.

it kind of led to goodness

... somehow this record got into the hands of Elliot Roberts, who seems to be a huge major player, and, like, Matt, he, like, managed Neil, Joni, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty-

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I guess he's just, like, he has his ear to the ground.

Um, anyways, Elliot Roberts, he died, I wanna say 2019, 2018 or so.

And there's a really lovely tribute that Tegan and Sara wrote, I think it was for, like, Billboard Canada, about Elliot.

This is like seriously one of my favorite songs of all time.

It's the perfect, I think Elliot Roberts described it as the perfect teenage escape anthem.

And I mean, I think that's, that's the perfect descriptor of this song.

Ah, yeah.

And the first thing I want to ask is, At what point, you know, I know it was somewhere around the time of Wild Tales release, but somewhere there was the point at which the proposition of a little tour in the summer of 74 was tossed out by Bill Graham.

And once Elliot Roberts pitched you the idea, it was all aboard.

Do you remember initially being pitched the idea?

Yeah, I do.