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So I'm not going to touch your Google tech manager.

I found out that your website is WordPress with Elementor.

Plus you have all these plugins.

And so at the end, it starts to basically like providing recommendations of what to fix.

And you just focus on WordPress and don't focus on the fight.

I think Elementor is a great example of someone who's doing a really good job of that, by the way.

Yeah.

So Nate, you have a decade of prior context at BigCommerce.

that were built over 10 years ago on old themes like Diddy and whatever.

I should imagine that some of the sites that have been upgraded to the newer versions of Diddy and Elementor and whatever, they'll be fine.

The fact is, not all of them can handle it.

We've had the experience with some of our older Diddy sites.

remember.

Yeah, yeah.

And he was migrating the site from Joomla and he – asked a guy in Hong Kong to do the migration and the guy rebuilt it in WordPress and he had added every little free plugin that had a pop-up on it and a this and a banner and like there were all of those, you know, it was on Elementor.

And you know when you go looking for extensions to the free version of Elementor on the WordPress plugin store, right? I kid you not, there were 15 of them installed on this thing.

And this is from, we've talked about him a couple of times today, is our friend Matt Stagliano, who's been on the show before.

He goes, I use Elementor on my WordPress sites.

I told Claude to make sure any updates or changes or additions.

We're using native element or widgets instead of HTML.