Elaine Tyler May

You guys are gonna love it.

As we close out this episode, I want to circle back to my conversation with Elaine Tyler-May.

Embedded in the propaganda of the 1950s was the notion that the nuclear family, symbolized by the male breadwinner and the American housewife, was what made the U.S. way superior to Soviet communism.

But it's not the 1950s anymore.

And I was like, I can't do this.

I literally can't.

We thank Elaine Tyler-May and Lynn Spiegel for joining us.

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