El Topo

the devil figure being a force of liberation in many ways for many people, but also being used by the other side to demonise those people as witches, as heretics, as whatever, when actually what they're experiencing is more of a liberation, whether that be sexual, whether that be queer, whether that be socially.

So, writer-director Juan Lopez Moctezuma, who had produced Alejandro Jodorowsky's early films, Fando Alnes and El Topo, and Moctezuma had made a couple of his own films by this point.

There's a film called The Mansion of Madness and Mary, Mary, Bloody Mary, which...

both made a little bit of an impact, but he really pulled out all the stops for this one.

Nice.

If he put Holy Mountain or El Topo, I might go that way.

But even just without thinking, I enjoy Exorcist 3 more than I enjoy Santa Sangre.

And I also think Exorcist 3 is saying a lot.

We still got a few.

Yeah, we do.

Surprised we haven't done El Topo yet, which is really kind of like the granddad of midnight movies in a lot of ways.

Yeah, it definitely is.

So the movie that I saw from Jodorowsky, I've seen The Holy Mountain.

I hadn't seen El Topo, but...

I saw El Topo in my cult cinema class.

That was one where my professor, who was social self-prez, said, if anyone needs to leave during this film, please do.

You are allowed to.

He said, every single college I've showed this at, there have been people that have walked out.

So now we're getting into film.

Jodorowsky, Santa, Sangre, I really liked because it's a simple story and there's sort of a semblance because like, you know, Holy Mountain or I haven't seen El Topo, but I would imagine that's just much more psychedelic and much more the narrative isn't really there.

Hey, man.

It's El Topo.

And it w- I'll say this though, if you... 'Cause this is a f- why they're re-releasing it in addition it to, uh, being 20 years, uh, 4K remaster.

Of course.

Hey, maybe man, maybe

or like Mike Mike was teasing me the other days like oh, have you seen El Topo, bro? Oh But have you seen El Topo, bro? I forget what he is.

He kept mentioning El Topo.

The Holy Mountain, bro.

And what's the other one that people were talking about? Oh, the one that we were just talking about earlier.

Doctor Who is a touchstone.

El Topo, and now Debbie Does Dallas is gonna become a touchstone.

Imagine the crossover between those three things.

If people could see Eddie's face, like, why do I do this thing with Chris?

You know, just people weren't ready for stuff like this.

I mean, unless you'd really seen, I guess, like El Topo or you'd seen some other really hardcore.

Clockwork Orange.

That hadn't come out.

Yeah.

Um, but, but everyone's reaction to the director, Alejandro Jodorowsky, at, yeah, that name everybody knows from Holy Mountain, El Topo.

But, but crazy enough, the film that I think is his most, I mean they're all crazy, but I'd say Santa Sangre maybe is the most, not commercial, but I'd say like a more linear story-

It's the most cohesive

This movie.

The vibes.

But my, it's funny, my story is not that dissimilar in the fact that, like, I had, I had heard of Jodorowsky by the reputation for El Topo and the Holy Mountain, uh, neither of which I had actually seen.

I only knew stories of those movies, but they were ones-