Eileen Guo

It's the Lawfare Podcast.

I'm Lawfare senior editor Michael Feinberg, and I'm here today with Eileen Guo of the MIT Technology Review.

Most of the experts that we spoke to for this story believe that we have really defanged ourselves in our ability to counter foreign disinformation or influence campaigns.

We'll be discussing whether the censorship industrial complex is something that really exists or was created as a boogeyman in order to justify a restructuring of the United States' anti-disinformation efforts.

Yeah, we're, we're [chuckles] definitely not in the best of positions.

Well, on that optimistic note, I think we will leave it for the day.

Eileen Guo, thank you again for coming on today and talking your, about your article in the MIT Technology Review.

And just in the issue of fairness and politeness, since I did not do this at the outset, I will note that you are one of three authors.