What do you think of him taking this beat and saying all of this out loud so directly?

You see Republicans and Democrats alike very worried about China as not an enemy, but as a true rival and emerging on equal footing almost in the world at this point.

And the question of where that will go over time when it comes to military buildup, when it comes to space exploration, when it comes maybe especially right now to AI and what is being done in the race and regulations that are being thought about.

It is a real question of where the United States will be vis-a-vis China in the years ahead.

And what we are seeing from the president is not clear on which direction he wants things to

He

invents it.

And in this case, one of the INSTANCES THAT WAS INVOKED FOR NATIONAL SECURITY WAS AN ARTICLE IN POLITICO THAT QUOTED AN UNNAMED SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL AND IT WAS ATTRIBUTED BY THE WHITE HOUSE LEARNERS TO A LEAK THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM.

I- is there still a toss-up feeling on the ground? Like, what are voters feeling at this point?

It's a little bit hard to tell.

Like, the polling, ah, in the primary, some polling showed it to be a very wide lead that El-Sayed would have over the other candidate, Haley Stevens.

It ended up being a very tight margin that El-Sayed won by.

So we have to see how this continues to develop.

Obviously, now we're into the fall.

People starting to focus on it more, think about this.

That's a basic affordability issue.

I know those men have both condemned antisemitism and violence against Jews, but I imagine there are still some Jewish voters out there who aren't comfortable with the way some of this is being discussed, right?

Yeah, and Jewish voters across the spectrum.

Look, Jewish Americans vote Democratic by a large margin.

There's certainly, uh, there's a group called the Republican Jewish Coalition.

There have been Jewish members of Congress, uh, who are Republicans.

[laughs] Um, but by and large, Jewish voters tend to vote Democrat and tend to be among the more progressives.

That [laughs] makes this even more of an uncomfortable conversation.

Nothing's changed.

I know those men have both condemned antisemitism and violence against Jews, but I imagine there are still some Jewish voters out there who aren't comfortable with the way some of this is being discussed, right?

Yeah, and Jewish voters across the spectrum.

Look, Jewish Americans vote Democratic by a large margin.

There's certainly, uh, there's a group called the Republican Jewish Coalition.

There have been Jewish members of Congress, uh, who are Republicans.

[laughs] Um, but by and large, Jewish voters tend to vote Democrat and tend to be among the more progressives.

That [laughs] makes this even more of an uncomfortable conversation.

And our party has not had a real ideological battle over what we're gonna stand for, what our platform will really be, um, what we're gonna fight for.

Isaac, how did the governor come to this conclusion?

Yeah, well, when I spoke to him a couple hours ago, what he said to me is that he's been paying a lot of attention to this, talking to a lot of people, but he was really struck by what the Court of Appeals in Colorado found, which is that, uh, the judge in doing the sentencing talked about her crime, but also talked about a lot of other stuff, uh, related to the 2020 election denialism.

Peters was convicted of going into a room in Colorado and bringing someone in there, uh, where there were voting machines, but the judge, in Polis' mind and the Court of Appeals' mind, made it into a bigger thing and gave her a harsher than, uh, fair sentence.

And so his feeling is that his job as governor is to try to correct that.

He kept saying to me that there's no problem with free speech.

She, she can say whatever she wants, even if he doesn't agree with it, but that can't be used against her in making the sentence bigger for the crime.

Right

... and he said to me that, yes, that's taken into account.

What

do you see in this? You see that there is not an appetite for foreign engagements, and that includes, I think, yes, look at the independents, but even among Republicans, there is a split that's there.

We don't know, given how quickly things are moving and also given how fast For so many issues, the Republican base and Republican officials just snap back into whatever Donald Trump is saying to do, and with no opposition in Congress coming, whether that will hold.

But it does show that there is an issue here of people not wanting this to happen, even as a lot of people who are thinking seriously about what's going on in Iran think that stopping Iran from having a nuclear weapon What

Is there someone people are talking about as being in the lead or is this quite close?

Well, we are heading into primary day today with Andrew Cuomo, the former governor, looking like he continues to be strong, but a lot less strong than people thought he would be.

And Zoran Mamdani, a 33-year-old assemblyman, democratic socialist, he's been in office for three years, surging in a way that has surprised everybody in New York.

We don't know how this is going to go.