What was it that brought you down to

Uptown? You know, after having conversations with Coach Hall and other coaches, you know, it was more so about – And Jack, matter of fact, it was more so about how the players lead the team.

You know, yeah, the coaches, they give us the game plan, they give us direction, but it's mainly a player-led team.

And that's something that I'm really falling into and follow behind, and I really do believe it.

And I think that just brings us closer together as a team, and it helps us play for each other.

Well,

How has that been like for you?

Well, first coming in, before I could even establish being a leader of a group, I had to follow behind everybody else with the culture that was already set in place before me.

Which was also perhaps a bit unusual.

Oh, very much unusual.

She was, she was entering a world here.

She, when she went to Nashville at, uh, as a, as a late teen, just packed up her cardboard suitcase, as she said herself, and just went.

You know, you can imagine the courage it took in a notoriously sexist, uh, misogynistic genre of music.

All music was, and probably still is to a certain degree, but country music in these days, and, you know, I think one of her great, I suppose, marketing's, um, very, very, you know, very clever operator, obviously we know, is business, but in the music business, she took inspiration from the local, what, in her words now, was the local town tramp.

You know, the big blonde hair and the, and the makeup and the, and the décolletage, as they say.

It was a costume

you know the good aspects of ai like how do you think ai is that disruptor but if we use it effectively it can make us into better leaders in sports and business

ai is a very interesting subject at the moment it's something that's you know i probably have different views on to a lot of people i tend to see it as all opportunity rather than threat i don't spend any time worrying about you know uh AI taking away jobs.

I don't think that's how technology has traditionally worked.

And I don't think really this is how it's going to work in this chapter either.

AI is going to change everything, but it can change things for the better.

I come from a humanities background.

Dad's an English teacher, a novelist.

But why? what have you learned individually as storytelling through your books with regards to your personal development of your career reflecting?

In terms of delivering those outcomes, delivering that kind of progress, what's the place for recognised standards, qualifications and continuing professional development? Do you see NHS management becoming recognised as a profession in the same way as other colleagues in the health service? And what does that mean for people already in leadership roles?

Yeah, I think for go back to where I started, which is this is the premier public service in this country and it's highly regarded.

It's absolutely pivotal that we get it right.

So I think standards are really important.

Competency frameworks are really important.

What we're trying to do with the college and what we will do with the college is bring together a single framework, the leadership and management expectations of what excellent leadership looks like.

That will be our North Star, our guiding star for everything we do, for all the programs that are run.

I mean, there's an ice hockey player, a Canadian

Let's take the general and make it specific in those realms.

Let's.

Well, first of all, both the points you make have some truth in them.

So let's look at the downside, first of all, or the challenge.

I do envisage a world in which AI becomes increasingly dominant, which looks overwhelmingly likely, where there's considerable challenges around purpose.

I think it's not difficult to project forward and think that Many, though never all, sort of comfort needs will be met.

Things will be delivered in an even more frictionless way than now.

When does the term start and how do people get into it? Well,

What are your thoughts here about what we may or may not be seeing?

Well, once again, if this was an Austin Fort decision, then that's what he's setting himself up for failure because that, in my opinion, the Cardinals had an opportunity to – you take a pick like that when you know you don't need a running back, and then also you don't have an offensive line.

You don't have a franchise quarterback.

Run down the list of all the things we don't have on the offensive side of the ball, and you're going to draft a running back who depends on – Everything that I just said, you know, all good offensive line, or at least a stable one, a quarterback who knows what he's doing out there.

So you go draft Jeremiah Love, poor Jeremiah Love.

He's walking into the same kind of situation that they had out and with the Raiders last year.

So in saying that, if Austin Fort was the one who made this decision, shame on him.

Yep.

Yeah, you know, just like a bit of more, more funk.

Yeah, so cook it, cook it fast.

I think typically I will cook at about 200 degrees in the oven for rarely more than an hour, probably 50 minutes to an hour, depending on the size of the chicken.

And then after the quick cook, a long, gentle rest-

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