Ed Husic

They don't want Australia to be left behind.

While other people such as former minister Ed Husic think that we should be much more cautious.

How is this going to affect the internal conversations within the government?

Well, I, I, I, I think pretty much the Prime Minister has pointed to where we are now.

They've been a bit late to the party on this in the first term of this government.

They rejected Ed Husic's idea to do this.

They had a minister, an industry minister at the time, that wanted to do some regulation of AI...

And the government rejected that approach completely, so much so that he got sacked from the ministry.

I mean, one thing I've said, you know, in private discussions to people is like, why is this conversation in Australia, you know, among Labor so different than it is in the UK? Why do we have in the UK so many varied voices within the Labor Party there? so much more interested in looking into detail at what, you know, their country should be doing and what it is doing and what could make it stop.

But here it's like a few voices, Ed Husic and others, and that's it.

It's such a, I find it incredibly asinine and boring conversation

And I think it just shows the

As for productivity, it's exactly the same.

I saw over the weekend or last week, Ed Husic was saying that we should just increase wages and it doesn't matter if there's no productivity increases or government doesn't control spending.

I mean, everything this Labor government is doing is making it harder for Australians, not easier.

And I think Australians are absolutely waking up to that fact.

All right.

We might leave it there, except to say Ed Husic, yes, his, uh, economics committee is looking at technology and productivity.

He was asked to do so by the Treasurer.

I guess trying to understand for all this talk of Australians and Australia being sophisticated early adopters of technology, why doesn't all that investment and sophistication land in our productivity numbers, which have been horrible for a couple of decades.

I don't know if you have any suggestions on maybe someone who's up for it.

I think you should try Ed Husic.

Yeah.

They pretty much oust him.

Tell, tell, tell us about this.

So, uh, this was a motion that almost was put up at the very stage managed Labor conference just two months ago in which Ed Husic was pushing this motion, and he has since, in the last few days, clarified that these sanctions against Israeli settlers were the kind of ones that he was trying to get put in the Labor platform at that conference.

But when it emerged that Ed Husic was working on this, there was a warning from Israel.

Uh, the embassy intervened and issued a, a warning in a public letter against doing it, and Labor very quickly fell into line, and Ed Husic couldn't even get a seconder for this motion.

He, he continued speaking out.

I remember him on the sidelines of that conference-

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